Vancouver Washington based. Subliminal Messages is a feelgood pop/rock sound striving for fine melodies. Creator/Writer/Composer Tim Gardner formed the band in 2004 after stints with several other bands going back to the late 90's. In 2004 SubMess released their first 4 song independently released self titled album. While virtually unknown nationally. SubMess has gained a cult following off of the album locally with such catchy tunes as "Poor Little Girl" and "Hindsight". Early to mid fall the group plans to release their second album"Down the Drain". A 16 track album that won't dissapoint. Presently the group is touring locally and doing studio work for the upcoming album.